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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:46 am 
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Hey all. What's up?

Listening to some great info at my conference.

Should be another solid day of boarding.

What's in tap with you Phook?


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Work and Phooking. Usual Thursday.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:01 am 
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Work and Phooking. Usual Thursday.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:01 am 
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Sitting in a room watching a guy validate data I've already validated.

My job sucks and schools are hella bureaucratic. Like to a huge fault.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:07 am 
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Sucks to have over validation...

I'm in engineering, so let's get the results and move on


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:10 am 
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Meh. I'm annoyed about insurance BS this morning but rolling with it and getting on with the day

Gotta code. I need to wrap a big project and get started on an uncertainty analysis, which should be interesting.

Have a bunch of shit to do around the house before my parents come tomorrow, so gonna try to get some of that done also


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:16 am 
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I don't have a lot of work to do which sort of sucks as it is hard to pretend to be busy as a carpenter. And I thought I fixed my brakes over the weekend but it turns out I need new rotors in front so I get to do that tonight instead of going to yoga.

But it is Thursday and the weekend is near. I'm trying to decide if I want to go backpacking or canyoneering...


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:20 am 
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Tell me about canyoneering in the south. Just hiking in/along stream?

When I think canyoneering I think the west


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JIMMYWILSON69 wrote:
Tell me about canyoneering in the south. Just hiking in/along stream?

When I think canyoneering I think the west


The basic definition is descending a watercourse. Around here it is pretty much waterfall rappeling and boulder hopping but we do have a few spots that are very slot like including a new one a friend has some good beta on. Not many people do it recreationally here - I am one of a handfull


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:35 am 
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Here is an example:

http://www.adventuresinpisgah.com/2016/ ... e.html?m=1


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:38 am 
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I have a parent meeting this morning with helicopter parents. Their honor student is failling social studies

i suggested that kid go to the afterschool homework club and got major attitude by the parents


they said they didn’t like my tone

I show that email to no less than four teachers & my principal and they all agreed that my tone was pleasant


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:59 am 
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Thanks Sand. That looks awesome! I used to do a lot of top rope climbing in college. Haven't done it in years.


Gar that sucks. Shitty parents and paperwork is why Mrs JW69 quit teaching. She was a special ed IEP manager forn11th grade students. Parents were the worst and because they had some sort of learning disability lots of parents took advantage of the system.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:00 am 
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JIMMYWILSON69 wrote:
Thanks Sand. That looks awesome! I used to do a lot of top rope climbing in college. Haven't done it in years.


Gar that sucks. Shitty parents and paperwork is why Mrs JW69 quit teaching. She was a special ed IEP manager forn11th grade students. Parents were the worst and because they had some sort of learning disability lots of parents took advantage of the system.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:02 am 
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why?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:03 am 
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JBS I assume that is in response to the later and not my former rock climbing prowess


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:11 am 
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it sounds like you’re saying kids with iep’s have parents who are working the system and that is really unfair.

these are parents that have fought tooth and nail to have the same education for their child that every other kid gets, because often, sped teachers just plain don’t do it.
an iep is a legally binding document. whatever it says in that document, is what the teacher is supposed to do. the fact that parents, especially in 11th grade, are fighting for more services and support speaks to their will. especially because these same parent s have been fighting this uphill battle with the school district likely for years.

ex. a parent wanting their child pushed into gen ed more frequently, but the school can’t provide the service. so the school says the kid isn’t capable of being pushed into gen ed, not because he isn’t capable, but because the school doesn’t wanna fund a 1:1 for that 40 min period for that one kid. the parent knows their kid is capable, with the right support, but the school doesn’t wanna do it. and so when parents fight and get irritated with schools, it’s because of bs like that that they have dealt with for YEARS.

of course some parents push the limits, but because they have “some sort of disability” implies that they “work the system” is a really demeaning and stupid thing to say.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:18 am 
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My wife could give you more instances of parents working the system than you could imagine.

She loved the job and working specifically with the kids who wanted to do well, but needed help. She had just as many kids who knew they had accommodations and were sliding by with doing nothing.

As is often the case a minority of parents ruined it for her. Between fighting with those parents who were pushing the boundary of reasonable accommodations and then fighting with teachers to do the accommodations as required by law, she got burnt out.

I was not making a sweeping generalization that all parents were working the system.


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there are plenty of parents working the system. I see it in my district

also plenty of parents were grateful to have the accommodations


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JIMMYWILSON69 wrote:
My wife could give you more instances of parents working the system than you could imagine.

She loved the job and working specifically with the kids who wanted to do well, but needed help. She had just as many kids who knew they had accommodations and were sliding by with doing nothing.

As is often the case a minority of parents ruined it for her. Between fighting with those parents who were pushing the boundary of reasonable accommodations and then fighting with teachers to do the accommodations as required by law, she got burnt out.

I was not making a sweeping generalization that all parents were working the system.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:22 am 
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and a shitload of teachers don’t follow the accommodations as required by law


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joeblowssnow wrote:
and a shitload of teachers don’t follow the accommodations as required by law


Without a doubt. They are an equal part of the problem. That aspect of her job was as hard as dealing with difficult parents.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:25 am 
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Too late


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:26 am 
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right on
thanks for explaining it a bit more


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:27 am 
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No worries.

I'm not apologizing for this one moose. Nice try...


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:29 am 
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Jimmy is like a ben still character. Always meaning well but somehow ends up in this awkward situations :lol:


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That's my life man...

I own it!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:04 pm 
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lots of crying by the kid


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saw thread title

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lots of crying by the kid


Not surprising based on what you said


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:57 pm 
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and a lot of "so and so didnt tell us that," by the parents


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