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Senator Al Franken Kissed and Groped Me Without My Consent, And There’s Nothing Funny About It
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In December of 2006, I embarked on my ninth USO Tour to entertain our troops, my eighth to the Middle East since the 9/11 attacks. My father served in Vietnam and my then-boyfriend (and now husband, Chris) is a pilot in the Air Force, so bringing a ‘little piece of home’ to servicemembers stationed far away from their families was both my passion and my privilege.

Also on the trip were country music artists Darryl Worley, Mark Wills, Keni Thomas, and some cheerleaders from the Dallas Cowboys. The headliner was comedian and now-senator, Al Franken.

Franken had written some skits for the show and brought props and costumes to go along with them. Like many USO shows before and since, the skits were full of sexual innuendo geared toward a young, male audience.

As a TV host and sports broadcaster, as well as a model familiar to the audience from the covers of FHM, Maxim and Playboy, I was only expecting to emcee and introduce the acts, but Franken said he had written a part for me that he thought would be funny, and I agreed to play along.

When I saw the script, Franken had written a moment when his character comes at me for a ‘kiss’. I suspected what he was after, but I figured I could turn my head at the last minute, or put my hand over his mouth, to get more laughs from the crowd.

On the day of the show Franken and I were alone backstage going over our lines one last time. He said to me, “We need to rehearse the kiss.” I laughed and ignored him. Then he said it again. I said something like, ‘Relax Al, this isn’t SNL…we don’t need to rehearse the kiss.’

He continued to insist, and I was beginning to get uncomfortable.

He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. I said ‘OK’ so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth.

I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn’t be so nice about it the next time.

I walked away. All I could think about was getting to a bathroom as fast as possible to rinse the taste of him out of my mouth.

I felt disgusted and violated.

Not long after, I performed the skit as written, carefully turning my head so he couldn’t kiss me on the lips.

No one saw what happened backstage. I didn’t tell the Sergeant Major of the Army, who was the sponsor of the tour. I didn’t tell our USO rep what happened.

At the time I didn’t want to cause trouble. We were in the middle of a war zone, it was the first show of our Holiday tour, I was a professional, and I could take care of myself. I told a few of the others on the tour what Franken had done and they knew how I felt about it.

I tried to let it go, but I was angry.

Other than our dialogue on stage, I never had a voluntary conversation with Al Franken again. I avoided him as much as possible and made sure I was never alone with him again for the rest of the tour.

Franken repaid me with petty insults, including drawing devil horns on at least one of the headshots I was autographing for the troops.

But he didn’t stop there.

The tour wrapped and on Christmas Eve we began the 36-hour trip home to L.A. After 2 weeks of grueling travel and performing I was exhausted. When our C-17 cargo plane took off from Afghanistan I immediately fell asleep, even though I was still wearing my flak vest and Kevlar helmet.

It wasn’t until I was back in the US and looking through the CD of photos we were given by the photographer that I saw this one:
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I couldn’t believe it. He groped me, without my consent, while I was asleep.

I felt violated all over again. Embarrassed. Belittled. Humiliated.

How dare anyone grab my breasts like this and think it’s funny?

I told my husband everything that happened and showed him the picture.

I wanted to shout my story to the world with a megaphone to anyone who would listen, but even as angry as I was, I was worried about the potential backlash and damage going public might have on my career as a broadcaster.

But that was then, this is now. I’m no longer afraid.

Today, I am the news anchor on McIntyre in the Morning on KABC Radio in Los Angeles. My colleagues are some of the most supportive people I’ve ever worked with in my career. Like everyone in the media, we’ve been reporting on the Harvey Weinstein sexual misconduct allegations since they broke, and the flood of similar stories that have come out about others.

A few weeks ago, we had California Congresswoman Jackie Speier on the show and she told us her story of being sexually assaulted when she was a young Congressional aide. She described how a powerful man in the office where she worked ‘held her face, kissed her and stuck his tongue in her mouth.’

At that moment, I thought to myself, Al Franken did that exact same thing to me.

I had locked up those memories of helplessness and violation for a long time, but they all came rushing back to me and my hands clinched into fists like it was yesterday.

I’m still angry at what Al Franken did to me.

Every time I hear his voice or see his face, I am angry. I am angry that I did his stupid skit for the rest of that tour. I am angry that I didn’t call him out in front of everyone when I had the microphone in my hand every night after that. I wanted to. But I didn’t want to rock the boat. I was there to entertain the troops and make sure they forgot about where they were for a few hours. Someday, I thought to myself, I would tell my story.

That day is now.

Senator Franken, you wrote the script. But there’s nothing funny about sexual assault.

You wrote the scene that would include you kissing me and then relentlessly badgered me into ‘rehearsing’ the kiss with you backstage when we were alone.

You knew exactly what you were doing. You forcibly kissed me without my consent, grabbed my breasts while I was sleeping and had someone take a photo of you doing it, knowing I would see it later, and be ashamed.

While debating whether or not to go public, I even thought to myself, so much worse has happened to so many others, maybe my story isn’t worth telling? But my story is worth telling.

Not just because 2017 is not 2006, or because I am much more secure in my career now than I was then, and not because I’m still angry.

I’m telling my story because there may be others.

I want to have the same effect on them that Congresswoman Jackie Speier had on me. I want them, and all the other victims of sexual assault, to be able to speak out immediately, and not keep their stories –and their anger– locked up inside for years, or decades.

I want the days of silence to be over forever.

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-t ... l-franken/


A few things I take away here....

She gave consent.
I know it sounds bad. But she did. He asked (repeatedly) and she agreed. Calling it "without my consent" is false.
The pic does not prove he groped her. It clearly appears to be a tasteless joke, but he isnt touching her. Its wrong, but not sure its actual groping.


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Oh well it should come out now is the time to cleanse all of this (see Cranstons take). It will hurt his career but that was inappropriate


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Impeach Al Franken!


Oh, and WOOD




But seriously, fuck that shit Al.


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its soon going to become easier to list who isnt an offender.

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On the day of the show Franken and I were alone backstage going over our lines one last time. He said to me, “We need to rehearse the kiss.” I laughed and ignored him. Then he said it again. I said something like, ‘Relax Al, this isn’t SNL…we don’t need to rehearse the kiss.’

He continued to insist, and I was beginning to get uncomfortable.

He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. [b]I said ‘OK’
so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth.

I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn’t be so nice about it the next time.

I walked away. All I could think about was getting to a bathroom as fast as possible to rinse the taste of him out of my mouth.

I felt disgusted and violated.



A few things I take away here....

She gave consent.
I know it sounds bad. But she did. He asked (repeatedly) and she agreed. Calling it "without my consent" is false.
The pic does not prove he groped her. It clearly appears to be a tasteless joke, but he isnt touching her. Its wrong, but not sure its actual groping.


Im teaching my son's not to rape and sexually assault (as I have been advised to do)

I am also teaching them not to take no for an answer. As a white male, they are in a position of power and can turn that pesky "no" into "ok" and thus avoiding and reprehensible behavior.

Its a nice loophole

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A few things I take away here....

She gave consent.
I know it sounds bad. But she did. He asked (repeatedly) and she agreed. Calling it "without my consent" is false.
The pic does not prove he groped her. It clearly appears to be a tasteless joke, but he isnt touching her. Its wrong, but not sure its actual groping.


She can't give consent while she is asleep.

What a devastating photo.


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The whole giving consent while pressured is going to make for interesting court cases. Or the time when consent is retracted. He said / she said is always difficult


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thsea wrote:

A few things I take away here....

She gave consent.
I know it sounds bad. But she did. He asked (repeatedly) and she agreed. Calling it "without my consent" is false.
The pic does not prove he groped her. It clearly appears to be a tasteless joke, but he isnt touching her. Its wrong, but not sure its actual groping.

ferreals dude?
multiple "no"s, growing discomfort, a relented okay, and not getting what was expected or warranted? id say she didnt give consent.
the second part is totally tasteless, and while it's not so obvious of a grope, one could make a very good case that it was and the kiss part only helps her case.

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A few things I take away here....

She gave consent.
I know it sounds bad. But she did. He asked (repeatedly) and she agreed. Calling it "without my consent" is false.
The pic does not prove he groped her. It clearly appears to be a tasteless joke, but he isnt touching her. Its wrong, but not sure its actual groping.


She can't give consent while she is asleep.

What a devastating photo.


Come on, she was wearing a Kevlar vest. If it can stop a bullet it can stop his hands

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Badgering someone into reluctant acquiescence is not how one obtains consent.


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The picture is tasteless but is he actually touching her? There is a gap so it's not full on palming but it looks like fingertips are making contact.

The kiss is more damning but the picture is physical evidence


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Badgering someone into reluctant acquiescence is not how one obtains consent.


But that's my go to move

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Badgering someone into reluctant acquiescence is not how one obtains consent.


Damn. No one tell my wife.

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i see that now,

so ill just leave this here:


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Badgering someone into reluctant acquiescence is not how one obtains consent.


But that's my go to move


Up top!

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Consent is a 2 way street both parties have a responsibility.

Was Al out of line with the kiss pressure? Yep...but consent was given.
Words have meanings.

The pic is tasteless but still no proof he touched her.


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When you are married it changes apparently.


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Was about to make a "well that's how I landed my wife" joke but you guys had it covered


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His fingers appear to be touching that vest


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Was Al out of line with the kiss pressure? Yep...but consent was given.
Words have meanings.


woof.
and this is why you have sexual assualt and rape in the world.

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Oh well it should come out now is the time to cleanse all of this (see Cranstons take). It will hurt his career but that was inappropriate

Cranston link por favor?


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Consent is a 2 way street both parties have a responsibility.

Was Al out of line with the kiss pressure? Yep...but consent was given.
Words have meanings.

The pic is tasteless but still no proof he touched her.


Did you defend your former coach this vehemently when he raped that shark?

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Consent is a 2 way street both parties have a responsibility.

Was Al out of line with the kiss pressure? Yep...but consent was given.
Words have meanings.

The pic is tasteless but still no proof he touched her.

It is absolute proof he is a total loser though.


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Was Al out of line with the kiss pressure? Yep...but consent was given.
Words have meanings.


woof.
and this is why you have sexual assualt and rape in the world.

Wut?
So someone can give consent and then post fact remove it?
You cool with that?

Legally, she would be in a tough spot having admitted to giving consent.


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Yes
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Consent is a 2 way street both parties have a responsibility.

Was Al out of line with the kiss pressure? Yep...but consent was given.
Words have meanings.

The pic is tasteless but still no proof he touched her.

It is absolute proof he is a total loser though.

Agreed


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God damn it! I really liked him and thought he had 2020 potential. Don't care the explanation. Inexcusable.

Sounds like McConnell is calling for an investigation. Not that I oppose this, but, would be nice if he was so quick to investigate people in his own party.


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Oh well it should come out now is the time to cleanse all of this (see Cranstons take). It will hurt his career but that was inappropriate

Cranston link por favor?



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The actor also said it’s encouraging to see sexual harassment issues finally come to the light. “It involves actors and actresses and people who are well-known, that’s why it’s getting that attention. Sexual predator behavior is not a Hollywood problem. It is a societal problem. We’re seeing that everywhere and that’s what’s so great about it, that it’s being exposed.”


http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/bryan-cranston-weinstein-spacey-sexual-harassment-1202614670/


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so the multiple times she said no and protested, and then the kiss that crossed the threshold of professionalism count for nothing?

ill agree that it's a murky ground legally, but it doesnt seem as though she "gave consent" as much as she was coerced or acquiesced to giving consent to something she actually didnt want to consent to, as evidenced by her multiple attempts not to. one "no" should suffice.

no means no. being badgered into saying yes means that the "no" was disregarded. he got consent, i guess, but that doesnt mean she's consenting.

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Investigation? LOL

It’s already been dealt with

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God damn it! I really liked him and thought he had 2020 potential. Don't care the explanation. Inexcusable.

Sounds like McConnell is calling for an investigation. Not that I oppose this, but, would be nice if he was so quick to investigate people in his own party.



Have Franken investigated, but then afterwards it can be brought up as hypocritical if those on the right are not.


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Trump has to be next, right?


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So I guess you're on Louis CKs side too since he asked them if he could take his dick out first?


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Trump has to be next, right?


Exactly.


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I don't give a fuck who you are, what's your political affiliation, what the political affiliation is of an accuser, or any of that shit.

This needs to stop. These people need to go. We need to clean house.


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It's a gray area because it is technically consent but also coercion. Which is why this will be interesting in the courts.


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Al started as a liberal before he eventually made a right-turn and endorsed Hilliary over Bernie in 2016.

You have to wonder if Hilliary had this stuff to blackmail Al into endorsing her?

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Trump has to be next, right?


Exactly.


Like, hasnt he been accused a bunch already?


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She gave consent.


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Yep...but consent was given


Badgering someone until they say 'yes' isn't getting consent. You ask - once - and if they say 'no', you leave it alone. It's up to them to bring it up again.


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Al started as a liberal before he eventually made a right-turn and endorsed Hilliary over Bernie in 2016.

You have to wonder if Hilliary had this stuff to blackmail Al into endorsing her?

yea, probably dude.

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If everyone gets taken down for something like this you know who we are left with?

Mike Pence because he refuses to be in the same room with a woman without a chaperone

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I highly doubt there are many people in congress that don't have a tale like this in their past at some point in their lives. Except maybe the women.


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If everyone gets taken down for something like this you know who we are left with?

Mike Pence because he refuses to be in the same room with a woman without a chaperone


Pence/Morrissey

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:06 pm 
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halYEM wrote:
so the multiple times she said no and protested, and then the kiss that crossed the threshold of professionalism count for nothing?

ill agree that it's a murky ground legally, but it doesnt seem as though she "gave consent" as much as she was coerced or acquiesced to giving consent to something she actually didnt want to consent to, as evidenced by her multiple attempts not to. one "no" should suffice.

no means no. being badgered into saying yes means that the "no" was disregarded. he got consent, i guess, but that doesnt mean she's consenting.


The "multiple times" appear to be once, so the claim of "badgering" seems a bit heavy handed:

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On the day of the show Franken and I were alone backstage going over our lines one last time. He said to me, “We need to rehearse the kiss.” I laughed and ignored him. Then he said it again. I said something like, ‘Relax Al, this isn’t SNL…we don’t need to rehearse the kiss.’

He continued to insist, and I was beginning to get uncomfortable.

He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. I said ‘OK’ so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth.


That is the only time she said no....and it wasnt a no. It was "we don't need to do that"

He asked again (claiming as an actor it needs to be done....not sure how true that is, never acted in my life) but she then agreed.

So we have:
Al: Hey we need to practice the kiss.
Leann: Nah...its not SNL dude...we're good.
Al: I really think we should its part of the skit.
Leann: OK

Per her statemet those were the only times they discussed it and her only responses were "nah...its not SNL" & "OK".

Equating it rape and claiming he badgered her into it is a bit over the top.


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