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That's 15 million kids. roughly 3x as many people as Norway's entire population

1 in 200 Norwegian kids are below the poverty line.

#shitholecountry

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Norway has one of the highest GDP per capita in the world and a population smaller than some US cities.

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Norway has one of the highest GDP per capita in the world and a population smaller than some US cities.

Yea, there's myriad differences and reasons for all of that. But the point is that maybe it's time for Americans to stop acting like we're so undeniably great at everything.

Still, 15 million kids, not really a point of pride.

edit - also, pretty sure NYC is the only city with a higher population than 5 mil.

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My impression is the vast majority of Americans are keenly aware of the problems in our country right now but we have a political party who is completely opposed to any reasonable answer to those problems.

Either way it was a dumb comparison.

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I'm not really the one who began using Norway as the metric of what is and isn't a shithole.

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and if anything, its a more worthwhile comparison than say, haiti and norway...

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Sure. That’s today. Now after tax reform though, just wait til the trickling starts to trickle.


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My impression is the vast majority of Americans are keenly aware of the problems in our country right now but we have a political party who is completely opposed to any reasonable answer to those problems.

it seems all of those keenly aware people are content to vote for said political party. so how keenly aware must they all be, right?

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US is such a shithole

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And yet these shithole Republicans want to torpedo everything from children's healthcare to free school lunch programs.


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halYEM wrote:
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Norway has one of the highest GDP per capita in the world and a population smaller than some US cities.

Yea, there's myriad differences and reasons for all of that. But the point is that maybe it's time for Americans to stop acting like we're so undeniably great at everything.

Still, 15 million kids, not really a point of pride.


I bet most of those 15 million look like they are from shithole countries.

Most of us that actually look like we belong here are great at everything

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How many of them are related to one another?

I wonder how many only children are in this situation and how it compares to families with multiple children and cousins.


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Deep thoughts from bearcobb


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Just come out and say it


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say what?

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Deep thoughts from bearcobb


I love that retort.

In any case I know that part of the reason why we are most likely not having a second kid is to ensure that we can spoil our daughter and never have there not be something for her to eat if hungry. Multiple children are (wait for it, this is shocking) more costly than a single child.


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I love that retort.

In any case I know that part of the reason why we are most likely not having a second kid is to ensure that we can spoil our daughter and never have there not be something for her to eat if hungry. Multiple children are (wait for it, this is shocking) more costly than a single child.



Yeah that’s probably a lot of the problem. 2nd kids getting taking up too much of the pie.

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if people would just stop having kids we'd close the wealth gap like *that*

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if poor people would just stop having kids we'd close the wealth gap like *that*

Ftfy

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halYEM wrote:
if people would just stop having kids we'd close the wealth gap like *that*


Well we would solve the overpopulation problem


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Yeah but work hard and you will be rewarded LOLOLOLOL



funny thing is that it actually works.


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i wonder if these are minority men and women?

lol @ it's "great being white in this country"


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digiholic wrote:
Yoyo87 wrote:
Yeah but work hard and you will be rewarded LOLOLOLOL



funny thing is that it actually works.



Lol

Also lol @ bearcobb. Yes the problem is people having kids.


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lol, indeed. what percentage of the population of impoverished Americans puts in a consistent 40 hour work week?


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lol, indeed. what percentage of the population of impoverished Americans puts in a consistent 40 hour work week?

:?

Pretty dumb comment considering there are millions of working poor in this nation.


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In the U.S., 85.8 percent of males and 66.5 percent of females work more than 40 hours per week.


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Imagine supporting your family on just $14,500 a year. That’s what a full-time, minimum-wage job pays. Wages come to less than $279 a week—and that’s before payroll taxes.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, a family of four needs to earn approximately $23,000 a year to live above the poverty line. Working full time, year-round at a minimum-wage job doesn’t get you even close to that figure. We’re talking about millions of people—8.9 million working adults, in fact—who work full time but are unable to keep their families out of poverty. More and more, the face of the poor is that of mothers and fathers struggling to feed, house, clothe, and educate their children—parents who are doing their best but still aren’t getting by.


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Would really suck trying to raise a family getting paid minimum wage.

Just heard that Walmart is raising their starting wage to $11/hr


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Would really suck trying to raise a family getting paid minimum wage.

Just heard that Walmart is raising their starting wage to $11/hr

It's impossible. Which is why they're on government assistance.


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In the U.S., 85.8 percent of males and 66.5 percent of females work more than 40 hours per week.




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More than 45 million people, or 14.5 percent of all Americans, lived below the poverty line last year


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I wonder what would happen if we stopped subsidizing corporate welfare through snap benefits.

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yes, and of the 45 million people living below the poverty line, 85/66% are working more than 40 hours a week.


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yes, and of the 45 million people living below the poverty line, 85/66% are working more than 40 hours a week.

And what percent are kids, elderly, disabled, etc?


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yes, and of the 45 million people living below the poverty line, 85/66% are working more than 40 hours a week.


I don't think that's what your quote was saying.

There are 125 million full time workers in America. 8.9 million of them are under the poverty level. That's like 8 or 9 percent or something. It's a shame that people have to work that hard for so little but the world needs ditch diggers too, Danny.

Bottom line, well over 90% of the working force of America is living over the poverty line which backs up my belief that working hard will typically keep you out of poverty.


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Especially those of us that come from a position of privilege. The old adage that working hard is all you need to do to get ahead is beyond dead. Consider the odds that are stacked against people who come from poverty (and many middle class people): health care is a for-profit nightmare, non-scholarship college tuition/student loans will put you in debt and ruin your credit, and banks and credit card companies have the system rigged against those people who have no credit or are trying to improve their current credit. Our entire structure as a country is carefully rigged to prevent the average citizen from moving beyond their inherited station in life. These are facts. Many of us have lived them and continue to live them. I'm lucky to be where I am today, and as much as it stings to admit it sometimes, it's the relative privilege I was born with that gave me many of the breaks and advantages to get me here.


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Those aren’t exactly facts. Okay, healthcare is fucked, that’s a fact.

Being in debt and having your credit ruined over college tuition is a choice. Choosing to go to a typical four year institution may end you up owing but technical school won’t and it will generally find you making a better living as well. Community college is affordable. Spreading your higher education out over a longer period will allow for you to work more while going to school so you don’t accrue the same level of debt as you would at a typical four year experience. Going off to a four year school, putting it all on credit, and throwing your hands in the air as if there are no other options is a choice, not a mandate.

There is no system in place to punish those who use credit cards responsibility. Living outside of your means is a choice.

There are things that help some people over others, always has been always will be. There are haves and have nots. By and large the great majority of people who go to work every day are not living in poverty. That’s all I’m saying.


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Lol

Please read a book

This book

https://www.amazon.com/Weapons-Math-Des ... 0553418815


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Also this

https://www.amazon.com/Our-Kids-America ... 1476769907


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Especially those of us that come from a position of privilege. The old adage that working hard is all you need to do to get ahead is beyond dead. Consider the odds that are stacked against people who come from poverty (and many middle class people): health care is a for-profit nightmare, non-scholarship college tuition/student loans will put you in debt and ruin your credit, and banks and credit card companies have the system rigged against those people who have no credit or are trying to improve their current credit. Our entire structure as a country is carefully rigged to prevent the average citizen from moving beyond their inherited station in life. These are facts. Many of us have lived them and continue to live them. I'm lucky to be where I am today, and as much as it stings to admit it sometimes, it's the relative privilege I was born with that gave me many of the breaks and advantages to get me here.



There is so much bullshit in this post.

Live below your means.
Use community college and trade schools to attain your education.
It’s actually pretty simple.

Of course none of that is being promoted.

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Those aren’t exactly facts. Okay, healthcare is fucked, that’s a fact.

Being in debt and having your credit ruined over college tuition is a choice. Choosing to go to a typical four year institution may end you up owing but technical school won’t and it will generally find you making a better living as well. Community college is affordable. Spreading your higher education out over a longer period will allow for you to work more while going to school so you don’t accrue the same level of debt as you would at a typical four year experience. Going off to a four year school, putting it all on credit, and throwing your hands in the air as if there are no other options is a choice, not a mandate.

There is no system in place to punish those who use credit cards responsibility. Living outside of your means is a choice.

There are things that help some people over others, always has been always will be. There are haves and have nots. By and large the great majority of people who go to work every day are not living in poverty. That’s all I’m saying.



I see Digi already covered this.

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Those aren’t exactly facts. Okay, healthcare is fucked, that’s a fact.

Being in debt and having your credit ruined over college tuition is a choice. Choosing to go to a typical four year institution may end you up owing but technical school won’t and it will generally find you making a better living as well. Community college is affordable. Spreading your higher education out over a longer period will allow for you to work more while going to school so you don’t accrue the same level of debt as you would at a typical four year experience. Going off to a four year school, putting it all on credit, and throwing your hands in the air as if there are no other options is a choice, not a mandate.

There is no system in place to punish those who use credit cards responsibility. Living outside of your means is a choice.

There are things that help some people over others, always has been always will be. There are haves and have nots. By and large the great majority of people who go to work every day are not living in poverty. That’s all I’m saying.



I see Digi already covered this.


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Especially those of us that come from a position of privilege. The old adage that working hard is all you need to do to get ahead is beyond dead. Consider the odds that are stacked against people who come from poverty (and many middle class people): health care is a for-profit nightmare, non-scholarship college tuition/student loans will put you in debt and ruin your credit, and banks and credit card companies have the system rigged against those people who have no credit or are trying to improve their current credit. Our entire structure as a country is carefully rigged to prevent the average citizen from moving beyond their inherited station in life. These are facts. Many of us have lived them and continue to live them. I'm lucky to be where I am today, and as much as it stings to admit it sometimes, it's the relative privilege I was born with that gave me many of the breaks and advantages to get me here.



There is so much bullshit in this post.

Live below your means.
Use community college and trade schools to attain your education.
It’s actually pretty simple.

Of course none of that is being promoted.



The 4 year college is promoted because it is profitable.


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90% of my students are on free or reduced lunch due to poverty


I work for the school district here in the food program and we have a pretty high percentage also.
The cost of living is so high here most people that work in Ventura cannot even afford to live here.
You need to make $25 per hour minimum (you will be poor as fuck making that) to even consider being able to afford living here and most of the jobs
are not paying near that. (that is if you only have one full time job)
A lot of the people I work with have two jobs and work 60-70 hours a week.


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The_Hose wrote:
Especially those of us that come from a position of privilege. The old adage that working hard is all you need to do to get ahead is beyond dead. Consider the odds that are stacked against people who come from poverty (and many middle class people): health care is a for-profit nightmare, non-scholarship college tuition/student loans will put you in debt and ruin your credit, and banks and credit card companies have the system rigged against those people who have no credit or are trying to improve their current credit. Our entire structure as a country is carefully rigged to prevent the average citizen from moving beyond their inherited station in life. These are facts. Many of us have lived them and continue to live them. I'm lucky to be where I am today, and as much as it stings to admit it sometimes, it's the relative privilege I was born with that gave me many of the breaks and advantages to get me here.



There is so much bullshit in this post.

Live below your means.
Use community college and trade schools to attain your education.
It’s actually pretty simple.

Of course none of that is being promoted.

i used community college
worked throughout my college experience
spread it out over 8 years
i owe over $60,000

lotta bullshit in that post


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